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  New light on blood?

  by Mickey mouse in

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  2. medical

  this is prompted by barbara's new article at freeminds and a message someone sent to my youtube account a month ago.. there are rumours that there will be "new light" this year about blood transfusions.

  if this happens, i for one will be speaking up and asking who is accountable for all the lives lost due to the wt's death dealing policy.

  this is an opportunity for all those who still have some connections with jws to make people think..

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  And, its pretty much dropped anyway. You can take 100% of blood if it's broken into "fractions". I could see them moving WBC, RBC & Plasma into fractions and keeping the ban. They moved hemoglobin into the "fraction" definition a few years ago. I remember being shocked at the time because I knew how big of a component hemoglobin is.

  I could see them either 1) changing the definition of fraction to include WBC, RBC & platlettes and/or 2) allowing autologous (your own blood) transfusions which they really are already doing with some of the cell saver type of procedures that recycle the patients blood and even store it for a "short" time.

  The policy is so confusing to the average JW that many are not aware of what they can and can't do.

  Remember, they used to ban organ transplants and 100% of blood (including vaccines). They reversed those stances. They can pretty much do what they want. They've always sort of worded it as an individual choice anyway (although we know its not). The courts here in the US I don't think would hold the WTS liable for damages at this point. But I'm sure the Legal department would love to see the ban go away because there's no guarantee that courts in the future will stay out of this issue.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-07-10 WT Study (DEDICATE JAH)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  he will even restore his loyal ones to their youth so that they can benefit from his care.

  more happiness than dedication ourselves to anything or one else--even a spirit-directed organization?.

  about making the choice to belong to jehovah.. comments.

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  The illustration about the father and adopted child was sick. A parent's love is supposed to be unconditional. To ask a child to pledge love is a business relationship, not a family. They don't have to earn a parent's love, it should be there. Any parent that would do such a thing is a terrible parent.

  Actually, 1 John 4:19 says that In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins NASB

  Even the NWT says - As for us, we love, because he first loved us.

  It's strange because on one hand, they speak about God's love yet on the other hand, paragraphs such as this one treat God as an unreasonable tyrant to whom no one can ever please. So which is it WTS? I know, the WTS is the unreasonable tyrant and they want all JWs to daily pledge their alligence. They're the ones that want the plegde of alligence before you're considered part of the "worldwide brotherhood".

  Blondie - great point about the slave! I have no idea why they used that illustration but I'm sure they were betting that no one would read the surrounding verses.
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  Russian Tract campaign: "Could It Happen Again? A Question for the Citizens of Russia"

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  2. friends

  http://www.jw-media.org/rus/20100226.htm.

  for immediate release.

  february 25, 2010. jehovahs witnesses address their fellow citizensrussiaon february 26-28, 2010, throughout russia, from the chukchi peninsula in the east to kaliningrad in the west, a special campaign is taking place.

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  You know the guys in Brooklyn/upstate NY are rubbing their hands together like old Mr. Burns from the Simpsons over this chance! They need some persecution to fire up the troops! They did something similar in France when they hammered with the back taxes. I don't think that changed the stance of the French government one bit.
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  a BIG shoutout to jwfacts

  by poopsiecakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im sure this has been mentioned many times on this site but i wanted to express my personal feelings of gratitude to paul at jwfacts.com.

  paul, your site changed my life.

  even though i discovered it when i was already disfellowshipped and really didnt have the intention of going back, i was still a fierce jw apologist.

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  Paul, just wanted to add my thanks for your site. Your discussion on the blood issue is the best I've read on the subject. Logical, factual and extremely well resourced and written.

  If I'm ever in the land of Oz, I'd love to buy you a beer mate!
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  BOE on Disfellowshiped Relatives

  by JWFreak in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again...please do not request a pdf scan these are interbranch copies not the same ones sent to the congregations.

  jwf.. january 21, 2010 .

  to all bodies of elders .

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  freddo - were you in my congregation??LOL your take is dead on. That's exactly how it plays out with the exception that elder 4 and 2 are buddies with elder 5 and also happen to be secretary & COBOE. Issue dies with whinny elder 1 & 3 going behind the others back to the CO. The CO talks to the COBOE on the next visit on the side and decides that nothing needs to even be discussed. Again, politics but this time working in favor of 5.

  JWF - Please don't let folks discourage you from posting this stuff. While it may not be super exciting, its important for those who aren't used to reading these letters to see for themselves the bureaucratic nature of how the individual congos are run. The low level managers have almost everything dictated to them and are cogs in the wheel to be used and disgarded as the higher ups see fit. Same goes for the rank & file.
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  BOE on Disfellowshiped Relatives

  by JWFreak in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again...please do not request a pdf scan these are interbranch copies not the same ones sent to the congregations.

  jwf.. january 21, 2010 .

  to all bodies of elders .

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  JWF - thanks for posting this!

  I don't really see in change from the previous policy. The BOE was supposed to "review" the persons qualifications and determine if he still qualified. In other words, if the BOE has been looking for an excuse to whack the guy, this was the perfect chance. On the other hand, if the person is well liked and has influence, then the BOE will say that he still qualifies. I've seen this happen numerous times. I always felt like it would be unchristian to help out your own kid regardless of status in the congregation. I couldn't see how throwing someone out on the street is "loving".
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  Circuit Overseers

  by Eiben Scrood in

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  2. friends

  some circuit overseers leave lasting impressions either for good or bad.

  others i barely remember.

  three that had the most impact on me were rodricks (that's how it's pronounced, not sure of the spelling), casino and shepherd.

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  darth - I've had R.L. Jones before. I liked him but not everyone did. He could come out with some crazy stuff! I remember arguing with him over something and he's the only CO I've ever met who actually conceeded that he was wrong and apologized. I didn't know what to do!
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  April KM Question Box

  by JWFreak in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  This is probably petty, but .....Did you ever have a problem with losing your KM?

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "misery, do you have an extra kingdom ministry?

  " "misery, you didnt give me my kindom ministry for april, i know its only february, but you wouldnt happen to have it, would you?

  " "i could have sworn i gave you your km.

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  Doubting Bro

  Now they have the whole midweek meeting schedule but the articles have been cut way back to one a page.

  I was always on top of handing them out. I even wrote names on each copy and kept them in my enormous "elder bag" that I foolishly toted to each meeting! Most of my groups were pretty good about hanging on to them. I don't think I've ever misplaced mine.

  My current Service Group Overseer (or whatever the designation is now) NEVER gives me (or anyone else) theirs. I have to follow-up with him. He's a nice, older gentleman who is very forgetful.
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  Elders who step down for little or no reason?

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  within the past decade, two elders stepped down in my old congregation.

  actually one was taken off for commiting adultery and therefore reproved, but the other one simply stepped down for no apparent reason.

  also, in another congregation i used to attend for a short time, i was shocked to hear of another elder stepping down, again for no apparent reason.. i am wondering if there has been an increase in the number of elders stepping down for no obvious reason and to see if this is a worrying trend causing alarm for the society.. i am thinking the past 10 years, particularly with the internet being available to so many people around the world today; but have you experienced many elders stepping down in your congregation or past congregation?

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  After I stepped aside I had one of those R&F nutbars (a loopy loonies with the fake bipolar) come up to me and tell me how much she was shocked and surprised and asked what lead up to my decision as she and her husband were so sad....my answer..."you and your family - you robbed me of my joy"

  LOLOLOL - that's fantastic!

  NLP - welcome. And, exactly!